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Light material for naval naval trousers. Why did the sailors wear a jelly pants? History of the appearance of trousers

All about roses

ANDtwo romantic versions of valves appearing at sailor pants:

1. Petr, passing along the embankment, saw a sailor of making love with a woman in the bushes and flashed with his bare "feed" in sight of passers-by, after which I published a decree:

"The sailors are fragile Hamskoe, but girls love them to continue, so that they did not disgrace the fleet Russian, their pants to sew the specified cut - the front part to lean, the back covered the back!"

2. The second version is no less interesting:

Catherine Great decided to visit O.Kotlin - Kronstadt on a vest boat with rowers, when moving at the sailor, sitting on wheels opposite the empress, his device fell out from the shirina, which Queen watched the boat did not moist in Kronstadt, after which it was issued a decree prohibiting Tailoring of sailor trousers with a shirina.

In fact, everything was much more prosaic, consider the same question from all sides.

Lardbank is a special form of cutting the front of the sailor trousers when instead of the front cut with buttons there is a valve that fastes on the sides of the pockets.

The front of the trousers had a folding valve, and together with wide pants such a trouser model gave the possibility of a sailor, falling into the water, quickly free from clothes and emerge. When two side clasps were unborn, then it was worth quickly chatting in the water and due to the wide roar pants themselves sculpted, not assigated boots.

The presence of a folding valve (Lartbanta) has allowed to move freely through the rim and narrow aisles, not at risking to clinging for anything. Wide, free cut of sailor trousers, like flannels, is also dictated by practical considerations. In the sea there is a road every second. It is necessary to have a form that can be put almost instantly.

In the era of the sailing fleet, the sailors more often went barefoot, and wooden decks are still rolling and soap. In order not to soak trousers, the sailors turned them to the knees, and this could only be done with their sufficient width. It is very important that wide pants are easy to remove in water when falling overboard. One way or another, but the modern desire to impose them (again, like Flanalevka) contradicts the real maritime traditions.

In fact, Larzbort once was quite a massive element of clothing, and not only in the sailors. If you have a fracture and a fromacy set, then you also have no shinking or Gulfi on trousers! Strange kinship - sailor and his pants, aristocrat and his pants ...

Pants 1830:

It is still quite young folded on the Fleet Pants Flesting: This "novelty" appeared only at the beginning of the 20th century and immediately gave a marine costume amazing finishes and elegance.

Today's day is not happy.

Sergeyev's defense minister (graduated from the CHVMU. Nakhimov) knew how painfully hit the traditions, appearance Fleet: Empty from wearing Bushlates, standard trousers with a width are introduced. "Savings", so to speak, on "combat and revolutionary traditions".

No wonder in " Overhaul"L. Soboleva has such a dialogue:
- And you know, the future admiral, unwitting your pants, by God! ..
- The form. In addition, the usual slot would be ugly. After all, the pants are not covered in front.

Yes, here you will look:

The one who knows how the marine form should look like, look at it unpleasantly. Yes, even the second right of the blossom, as we said, hanging on eggs, it's some kind of shame ...
What we say that the fabrics for the form have become completely different, in my time there was no artificial thread from above, only cotton and wool, whether in winter whether in summer. Although no, but the buttons on the pants and inside the flannels, to which the blue sailor collar was mounted, and on the sleeves of white formen were plastic - and that's all.

This is how the sailor form was described romantically at one time:
"The view of him was that it was necessary! Black Fleet Pants" Clash "with a sailor valve at a kinnogenic authority give a party. Bescazyrka on the back of the head with high-meters" pigtails "and gold anchors at the ends of ribbons glow like Nimbi in the saint.
Wide strap with copper anchor fucking shines like a well-known iconostasis ... "

I will come back to the naval clothes and its names :)

Pieces of text and pictures I took here.

Some believe that this is COGD, then the fleet has come under the influence of fashion. What do you think?
Initially, the pants of the glue appeared on the fleet. The fashion designers picked up: it was in his own way courageous. Bruggies sewed a pipe from the hip so that the sailors were comfortable in them. Sailors have come up with even to go to the dismissal of a storm claw with lead inserts - imitation of the storm. Later, hippie stuck from the knee.
I heard from whom I don't remember that Clash really the first dressed sailors seem to be for what if it turned out to be in the water it was possible to quickly get rid of clothes in the cliff from the trousers in order not to drown, from there and lead inserts and, accordingly, the sorry of the trousers themselves instead of the so-called . Not sure, but it seems to be logical, although it may not do it \u003d)
Correctly say they have made a slot on the collar so that the head easily climbed and the sleeves are wide to remove :)
Yes, the pants were free and clashes on the side so that the water could be easily free from unnecessary)
It is absolutely true and with a flap and with a valve - it is free to get rid of clothes faster in case of falling into the water.
Nifiga is not to quickly get rid of the trousers (one first ordinary - jump into the water and free yourself - check out the time, then cuddles are dressed - again you turn around - compare :)) Valve - I agree - so that faster. Flans - to tear quickly - similarly. But Klyosh himself - to more easily roll pants (do not wet) the truth of the verb :)
A lead then why sewn down the leg? Obviously not to roll, that can be flared to hang out in different directions, but most likely there is some piece and practical primenenae.Veroyatney just pants that would like to do in the water crawled under the weight of the lead plates.
About the so-called VALVE, I can tell a story that happened allegedly in the time of Peter 1: It was once Peter 1 on the embankment, and suddenly sees the bushes sailor fucks girl some, the very action of the bushes was not visible , but it was visible naked ass matrosika Peter 1 said it was wrong sailor his naked rear to show, and for the convenience of further fucking invented the valve and the ass is covered, and you can have sex without removing naval :)) pants))))))
Approximately in meaning - the last story - in the text of Tophe Starshin told ...
There is another version of the valve on the mice, it is related to the times of the sailing fleet, when it also had to climb on the ride, and so as not to cling to something broadcast, the valve was invented.
Pants glue- actually came up with sailors. Ser.18 c. The pants, patches, during the bottom, hands, did not sweat when disembarking and on the deck. British sailors.


Sea trousers used to be a clasp-own.

Lardbank is a special form of cutting the front of the sailor trousers when instead of the front cut with buttons there is a valve that fastes on the sides of the pockets.

Front trousers had a folding valve, and together with wide pants such a trouser model gave the possibility of a sailor to falling into the water quickly frees from clothes and float. When two side fasteners were unborn, it costs to quickly chat in the water and due to the wide clay trousers themselves sculpted not hurt shoes .

Military form is the most thoughtful clothing, undoubtedly, the fleet too. And everything in it is subordinate to practicality. The emergence of such a cut with the valve came from the sailor clothes of the Dutch sailors.

"Marine pants"

In our language the word "pants" got from the Dutch language during the Petrine reforms, therefore, in Russian dictionaries in 1789, 1803 and even 1834. It was still necessary to explain that the pants are "sailor pants."

The presence of a folding valve (Lartbanta) has allowed to move freely through the rim and narrow aisles, not at risking to clinging for anything. Wide, free cut of sailor trousers, like flannels, is also dictated by practical considerations. In the sea there is a road every second. It is necessary to have a form that can be put almost instantly.

In the era of the sailing fleet, the sailors more often went barefoot, and wooden decks are still rolling and soap. In order not to soak trousers, the sailors turned them to the knees, and this could only be done with their sufficient width. It is very important that wide pants are easy to remove in water when falling overboard. One way or another, but the modern desire to impose them (again, like Flanalevka) contradicts the real maritime traditions.

Still quite young at smoothing navy pants crease: this "novelty" appeared only at the beginning of the XX century, and immediately gave the Sea costume amazing completeness and elegance

It was...

So it became ...

Nakhimovtsy

Today's day is not happy. The Minister of Defense Sergeyev (graduated from the CHVMU. Nakhimov) knew how painfully to hit traditions, the appearance of the fleet: a standard pants with a width was introduced from wearing. "Savings", so to speak, on "combat and revolutionary traditions".http://nac.zbord.ru/viewtopic.php?p\u003d130

Each generation has its own fashion.
L. Sobolev, "Overhaul":
"It is indecent Gardemaryna to sit in the theater above the second tier; It is impossible to go outside without white suede gloves; shamefully bargain with the cab; Ashamed to wear stateless shoes. This was the catechism of the marine corps ... "

From the same book:
- And you know, the future admiral, unwitting your pants, by God! ..
- The form. In addition, the usual slot would be ugly. After all, the pants are not covered in front.

The versions of the origin of the pants with Lartbank are a set, with variations to amur ...

In fact, Larzbort once was quite a massive element of clothing, and not only in the sailors.

And most likely remained as a tribute to tradition. Rob, by the way, did not actually changed 200 years.

Opinion served on the fleet:

"The cloth of paradki even in the rain namoknesh - they are quite heavy Rob -. In contrast, soft, light and practical if it is of the correct fabric Now I have both been starshinki, and those who later was called -.. Came to the" glass "and "Jeans" - there was worse, yes. By weight it is equally, but according to practicality - only a foreman.

As for the collar - pants with her in combination with the flange ( flanalevka), It is less aesthetic to my peerness than with Larzbank. And the inconvenience from Larzbant is exactly no, except that the first week is unusual ... "

If you have a fracture and a fromacy set, then you also have no shinking or Gulfi on trousers! Strange kinship - sailor and his pants, aristocrat and his pants ...

I know two versions of the appearance of valves at sailor pants:

1. The sir of Peter, passing along the embankment, saw a sailor of making love with a woman in the bushes and flashed with his naked "feed" in sight of passers-by, issued a decree:

"Boorish sailors brat, but the girls love them in the future, so that they do not disgrace the Russian navy, pants they sew the specified cut - front part to recline, rear covered ass!"


2. The second version is no less interesting:
Catherine Great decided to visit O.Kotlin - Kronstadt on a vest boat with rowers

(Here it should be noted that during the transition sailors, seated rowing, all actions are allowed to do only on command sergeant boat, even if necessary to celebrate small need for prolonged transition, there is a command - "X ** on the gunwale!")

when moving at the sailor, sitting on wheels opposite the Empress, his device fell out from the shirina, which the Tsarina watched the boat did not moisten in Kronstadt, after which a decree was issued, prohibiting the sewing of sailor trousers with a shirin.http://www.yaplakal.com/forum7/topic520683.html

Pleiad Sailors - Family Traditions

The next round of fashion returns us to the pants to the clams - they are triumphantly returned as the most fashionable style

People who follow fashionable trends, could not help but notice the pants of the glue in all new collections of famous couturies. And if you are viewing fashionable show with your parents, then surely they will plunge into memories of how in their times it was difficult to get these trendy pants. And yet it is worth noting that this scarce goods began its history by no means in the Soviet Union, because our parents began to wear them looking at foreign stars of cinema and pop.

The tagged story began in the distant 1813, when they became the official form of American sailors. Young people who came to the service in the sea fleet, gave the pants who were kicked from the hip himself and had a zipper not like everyone's trouser, and with her side - it was done in order to easily throw off his clothes, in case the sailor It turns out on board. And when sailors went from the ship to spend their weekend on land, they embarked in the edges of the trousers small pieces of lead, so that when walking with these "bells", the storm from side to side - it was considered a special chic at the sailor style. In those days of "Fashion", for some reason not settled in the masses. To do this, it took almost a half century so that this element of clothing was taken into the wardrobe of fashionists.

The appearance of fashion on the pants of the glue in the late 60s of the 1970s is worth paying tribute to children of flowers - hippie. It is this period that can be considered a starry hour clay. So it is not known anyone why this subculture chose pants such a crog. It was these guys that the attribute of the marine form of unisexuality, additional elements, prints and new forms - now the pants were incurred not from the hips, like the sailors, and from the knee: the width of the trouser under the knee - 21 centimeters, and the ankle should have been - 23. A little Later, fashion "created" a new format of trend models - 23 by 25 centimeters, and some styles from somewhere got a unimaginable mite width - 27 by 32 centimeters! Fashion, who wanted to stand out from the crowd with the width of their trousers, appealed to the studio, but they were denied, explaining that such a format was not laid! Therefore, many experimented over the design on their own.

Jane Birkin, David Bowie and Twiggy in Clashes

The main difference between the clays from ordinary trousers was the location of the pockets - ordinary were with the side of the side, and in the glue on the outside of the hip. Do you know how could you distinguish the fashionist? Men's men constantly put their hands in the trousers (by the way, the expression "hands in trousers" came to us exactly from that time), threw back into a question mark, seed with small chambers and slightly swollen when walking and right, then to the left. As an optional accessory to the flared served a wide belt of 6 centimeters, and in some mods width of the belt reached 10 centimeters.

1974

1975 year

After a bright 70s, for some reason, it retreated for some reason, but returned to the Crazy 90s, when the disco time was marked with jelly pants not only on world podiums, but also widely stepped into the masses. That's just their original unisexuality they were lost, such pants began to be considered exclusively female element of the wardrobe.

Designers of the 21st century also do not want to forget about this interesting and fashionable element of the female wardrobe, but they are no longer sophisticated over the glue design, as hippie did. To date, you can wear them into the feast, and in the world, depending on supplements to your image.

Derek Lam and Adam Spring-Summer 2011

Jeniyari Jones and Jessica Alba in jeans-clay

Katie Holmes and Rachel Zoe in Jeans-Clash

Giselle Bundchen and Diana Kruger in jeans-clay

Kate Moss for Liu Jo Spring-Summer 2012

Papasha Muller asked a question

Why did the Fashion go to the "Clash" pants?
Here, some edition announced the light that because because of them (culled) easier to pull it out if the sailor suddenly fell into the water. Logical? Yeah.
The whole thing is, why pull the pants, falling into the water - this question, it seems, no one bothers ...

And I remembered my school years. Not in the mold was a problem! This was proud.

Let me remind you all the senior school classes my father was a senior officer - a lieutenant colonel engineer. Went in black uniform in the sea uniform. The form was given to him very often, and the father was a car. The form of the years was like new. Even shirts! And he supplied the holiday fleet of me.

Quite in childhood, in primary school, I was sewn pants and coats from cuts that Father received. Excellent fabric! But when I was walked by a big, my father began to bring a complete set of form of my size! The chinel was a little redoned, and the shirts and pants were fully fit. And for the first time I put on the fleet of sailor pants. And went to school.

Now it will be interesting to moms who have boys and know how to sew.

On the naval pants, the sailors have no width (she is a gulfik on the sea). Pants in front have so-called. Valve and fastened with sides on buttons. And the gulfik is among officers.

I remember how in the 7th grade came to class and looked at my new pants with interest with interest - they had cool! "And when I said, and showed that there are no shiroshi at the sailors and there are no stains on my pants, everyone regained. It was me noncory ...

And then came up with. Gondo said - the valve is the most beautiful thing for fast sex))) Yes in crowded places))). And all the boys looked respectfully)) ... bluff at the right time - the wonderful thing))

We will lower the version that are repeated all - about Peter the first and sex, about Catherine the Great and naked member of the sailor - and talk about two main versions.

First. So that the pants quickly throw off in the water. And cool to this to throw out the port without removing the boot. This is the most common version. But my twig is the second.

For some reason, forgot about the truthful version of the trouser valve - the military form is the most thoughtful clothing, undoubtedly, the fleet too. And everything in it is subordinate to practicality. The emergence of such a cut with the valve came from the sailor clothes of the Dutch sailors. It is so that when you descend from the rope, do not cling to the empty, do not break clothes ... And that's it.

No, one more. If you have a fracture and a fromacy set, then you also have no shinking or Gulfi on trousers! Strange kinship - sailor and his pants, aristocrat and his pants ...

No, everything is not easy! Are your versions?

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From the Marine Forum:

Seeing the future shed outdoor shape of the sailors and elders of the fleet, I was very upset. She began to resemble the shape of the ground forces: the same caps, nods ... no already bothering with ribbons, no ducts, nor "Dutch", nor Güsov ... But in this was, you can say, the whole "highlight" of the sailor form! What kind of sailor is in a cap, and not without care?! And the casual form, Rob, became largely similar to the similar American form of the Navy (again the blind copying of all Western). She, for example, is sewn from Sukna, who almost no longer meet in modern uniforms. This wool form has in turn a number of advantages: it is warm, "breathes", repels the water, reliable and not worn out for a long time. It is also varied. For example, in cold weather, sailors and foremen put on blue cloth Dutch, and in warm - white cotton dutch. Cooks were black and white, etc.

I confirm. Sukly magnificent, now overseas garbage instead of Soviet splendor! Thin ...